Discussion journal of the Mössbauer Community

[Massimo Carbucicchio <massimo.carbucicchio AT unipr.it>]

Dear Colleagues


I can only now participate to the discussion following the shocking 
announcement of Frans.


First of all, I would like to thank John and Krish for theirproposals 
for overcoming thedifficulties concerning ISIAME 2016. Many thanks also 
to Raquel that made a very valuable effort, for reducing the duration of 
the conference and for having evaluated the possible participation fees.


However, concerning the John’s proposal of constitute an IFIAME, I admit 
to have some doubts.


The main problem of ISIAME in Cape Town is the number of participants 
that, contrary to what Frans had foreseen, is very low. Well, but if a 
researcher is not willing or has not supports for attending the ISIAME, 
he will not have also the possibility to attend the Forum. Moreover, 
itsInstitution and/or supporters reasonably should prefer that he attend 
a well-established meeting with a good tradition, instead of a meeting 
improvised at the last minute.


In effect, probably, the best solution is to reduce,exceptionally, the 
duration of ISIAME 2016 to three days.From this point of view the 
programme proposed by Raquel seems to me satisfactory.


I completely agree with John concerning the oral presentation from the 
participants. ISIAME is a Symposium and, contrary to what happens in a 
conference where the time for presenting the results is normally very 
short, a large time should allow a good exchange of information. The 
fact that the number of participants is low can represent an excellent 
occasion for having large friendly discussions, and for deepening the 
obtained results.


The low participation to ISIAME 2016 is partially attributable to the 
low involvement, to the difficulties to enter the conference site 
reported in the first flyer, corrected and changed only in the middle of 
April, the absence of proposals of lower cost alternative 
accommodations. However, we have also to consider the current 
difficulties and the fact that many groups, which were some years ago 
highly active in MS, at present have changed their interest. This is 
what occurred for example in Italy, but I am feeling that a similar 
situation occurs also in many other Countries. During the conference we 
will have to discuss on this aspect and propose ideas for overcoming 
this situation which only involve “old Moessbauerists” and a low number 
of young researchers which are generally more attracted by new 
techniques and are highly stimulated to publish on journals with high 
impact factor. By the way this would avoid that in the next ISIAME,a 
similar problem occur and we discover that the number of participants is 
very low.


Kind regards
Massimo



Il 29/06/2016 17.57, Krish Bharuth-Ram ha scritto:
> Dear All
>
> I have just had a telephonic discussion with Dr Carlos Pineda head of 
> the Materials Research Division at iThemba LABS.
>
> He has confirmed
>
> i) iThemba LABs as a venue for the Welcome Barbecue/Braai on Sunday 
> 4th September - at iThemba LABS. Naomi who heads the conference desk 
> at iThemba LABs will source the transport to get delegates to iThemba 
> LABsa nd back to their hotel once we have info on the hotel. Costs for 
> the Reception and the transport will be covered by funds that I can 
> access.
>
> ii) The Director has agreed to make the auditorium available to us for 
> the period 4-8 September - so we have this fall back position at no cost.
>
> If other hotels in the City Bowl are too expensive, Raquel may try the 
> Lord Charles near the entrance to Somerset West and close to iThemba LABS.
> (Followers of our political history may remember the Lord Charles - it 
> was the hotel to which Nelson Mandela went before making his historic 
> speech on his release after 27 years of imprisonment.)
>
> However for other social activities, especially for accompanying 
> persons, a hotel as Raquel has suggested near the city centre may be 
> better.
>
> My best regards
>
> Krish.
>
>
> On 2016/06/29 05:37 PM, Raquel Richardson wrote:
> > Hello John, Frans, Krish and team
> >
> > I apologise for the delay, I had to unfortunately wait for the venues 
> > to respond in writing with availability.
> >
> > I’ve looked at the costs and we can do the following programme for 
> > the following costs (based on 30 x delegates attending)
> >
> > Full Registration                               EUR 260 per person
> >
> > MEDC Affiliated                                EUR 230 per person
> >
> > Student / Retired                             EUR 210 per person
> >
> > Accompanying Person                   EUR 150 per person
> >
> > *_Programme Outline_*
> >
> > *_4^th August _*
> >
> > Registration
> >
> > Welcome cocktail function at iThemba LABS  (Venue, food and beverages 
> > needs to be confirmed by Krish)  - Transfers to and from hotel included
> >
> > *_5^th August _*
> >
> > Full day session with morning and afternoon tea breaks, lunch and a 
> > beverage at lunch.*__*
> >
> > *__*
> >
> > *_6^th August _*
> >
> > Full day tour of highlights of Cape Town.   HIGHLIGHTS: The 
> > Peninsula; Clifton & Camps Bay, Twelve Apostles Mountain Range, 
> > Llandudno, Hout Bay, Chapman’s Peak Drive, Noordhoek, Ostrich 
> > viewing, Cape Point, Cape of Good Hope Nature Reserve, Penguin colony 
> > (optional), Simons Town, Kalk Bay, Muizenberg, False Bay.  The Wine 
> > Route; Stellenbosch orientation, Wine tasting, Cellar Tour, 
> > Opportunity to purchase wine and Cheese-tasting. Includes guide, two 
> > bottles of water and entrance fees.  Excludes lunch and entrance fee 
> > to Penguin Colony.
> >
> > *__*
> >
> > *_7^th August _*
> >
> > Full day session with morning and afternoon tea breaks, lunch and a 
> > beverage at lunch.
> >
> > *__*
> >
> > *_8^th August _*
> >
> > Half day session with morning tea breaks, lunch and a beverage at 
> > lunch.*__*
> >
> > *__*
> >
> > Please confirm that you are happy for me to go ahead and update the 
> > above on the website?   I have looked at a venue in Cape Town City 
> > Bowl (town), as this will allow more opportunities for various types 
> > of accommodation.  The venue itself has accommodation, however if 
> > it’s too expensive, there are several options located within 2 blocks 
> > of the venue.  The average cost in the area is EUR 78 per room (single)
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Raquel Richardson
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > *Subject:* Apologies and Clarification
> >
> > Colleagues,
> >
> > *Apologies*: 45 minutes preceding my email below, as I began to write 
> > this email, my computer decided to send you an email that was in error.
> >
> > *Clarification*: A the end of the paragraph under “Forum” the wording 
> > should be “...involved with organizing ISIAME *2018*.” NOT “involved 
> > with organizing ISIAME *2016*.”
> >
> > John
> >
> >     On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:56 AM, John G Stevens
> >     
> > <stevensjohng AT gmail.com
> >  
> > <mailto:stevensjohng AT gmail.com>>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >     Greetings Colleagues,
> >
> >     Clearly we have a major challenge confronting us in which we need
> >     to be much more congenial in order to be able to reach a solution
> >     that is in the best interest of our Mössbauer Community and
> >     assist all those (organizers and participants) who have invested
> >     in ISIAME.  Based on the emails we have all been receiving and
> >     other emails, I suggest the following as a way we may be able to
> >     proceed:
> >
> >     *_1. Forum. _*
> >
> >     This is not a conference, but it is a symposium.  Let’s go one
> >     step further and have the event this September in Cape Town be
> >     the International Forum on the Applications of the Mössbauer
> >     Effect (IFIAME).  The forum would be a *three day event and would
> >     have 20 participants* (maybe as many as 30). The agenda of the
> >     Forum would be to have (1) *scientific oral presentations* (no
> >     posters) [1 1/2 days], (2) *simple social event*s [up to 1 day],
> >     and an  (3) *open forum *[half day].  The agenda of the open
> >     forum would be the state of industrial applications of the
> >     Mössbauer Effect and planning for the next ISIAME to be in 2018
> >     and hosted the the Czech group (future ISIAMEs would be every
> >     four years after 2018 (2022, 2026…). It is most important that
> >     there be representatives at the forum who would be involved with
> >     organizing ISIAME 2016.
> >
> >     *_2. Leadership._*
> >
> >     *Scientific Presentations* - Frans Waanders and Krish Bharuth
> >
> >     *Forum* - Missino Carbucicchio assisted by members of the ISIAME
> >     Scientific Executive Committee
> >
> >     *Accommodations* - Frans Waanders and Raquel Richardson (this is
> >     housing and meeting space)
> >
> >     *_3. Finances._*
> >
> >            Reduce and simplify the Registration as a single fee - EUR 250
> >
> >            All meals to be paid by participants
> >
> >            Housing - we were quoted EUR 76 per night / online today
> >     at the Lagoon Beach Hotel the posted cost for single is EUR 86 /
> >     using KAYAK the cost is EUR 66.  These prices include fees, taxes
> >     and service charges.  Whatever the actual cost, these numbers
> >     seem reasonable at the Lagoon Beach Hotel. I am assuming there
> >     would be a meeting room there, or nearby that can accommodate
> >     20-30 people.
> >
> >     There are a lot of details to contend with, but they are
> >     manageable. Others of you I know will have further suggestions to
> >     make this work.  As stated in my first paragraph - */solution
> >     that is in the best interest of our Mössbauer Community and
> >     assist all those (organizers and participants) who have invested
> >     in ISIAME./*
> >
> >     Hope this might be helpful.
> >
> >     John
> >
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