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  • From: "Frans Waanders" <Frans.Waanders AT nwu.ac.za>
  • To: <raquel AT ap22ude.co.za>, <berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk>, <kuzmann AT caesar.elte.hu>, <edson AT cce.ufes.br>, <haraldur.p.gunnlaugsson AT cern.ch>, <sunhui AT dicp.ac.cn>, <taozhang AT dicp.ac.cn>, <wangjh AT dicp.ac.cn>, <lazar.karoly AT energia.mta.hu>, <Stanislaw.Dubiel AT fis.agh.edu.pl>, <aderbal47 AT gmail.com>, <stevensjohng AT gmail.com>, <robi AT ifd.uni.wroc.pl>, <reissner AT ifp.tuwien.ac.at>, <vpopov AT imp.uran.ru>, <Guido.Langouche AT kuleuven.be>, <mix AT lists.kfki.hu>, <israel.felner AT mail.huji.ac.il>, <gdzhbj AT mail.iggcas.ac.cn>, <mosslab.kz AT mail.ru>, <yoshida AT ms.sist.ac.jp>, <lttt AT physics.by>, <kbr AT saao.ac.za>, <Lodya.Lodya AT sasol.com>, <S.D.Forder AT shu.ac.uk>, <kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp>, <magnet AT uestc.edu.cn>, <amulaba AT uj.ac.za>, <klingel AT uni-mainz.de>, <ksenofon AT uni-mainz.de>, <massimo.carbucicchio AT unipr.it>, <jean-marc.greneche AT univ-lemans.fr>, <jumas AT univ-montp2.fr>, <lippens AT univ-montp2.fr>, <jakub.navarik AT upol.cz>, <libor.machala AT upol.cz>, <nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu>, <Deena.Naidoo AT wits.ac.za>, <Gerrard.Peter AT wits.ac.za>, <Hilary.Masenda AT wits.ac.za>
  • Subject: Re: [Mix] ISIAME 2016
  • Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:06:30 +0200

Dear allThanks for the support Frank. I have spoken today to Raquel
again after virtually no contact possibilities the last week. I am in
Namibia busy with a project and will have email contact on my mobile
phone until tomorrow evening when I will be back with my student in the
field.I fully support the idea to keep ISIAME going and will again
highlight certain points mentioned previously1. The venue is not the
main issue but I had to cancel the Lagoon beach due to lack of funding.
Raquel will look into other options when I am still away and will also
liase with Krish about Ithemba labs, but I must mention it is some
distance away and there is no accomodation at the labs and I think it
might be difficult to get everyone there. The hotel costs he mentions is
about the same but then we have to organize some transport to and from
the venue.2. To have a usefull symposium we need much more abstracts.
With the initial deadline we had about 20 and with the extention only a
few additional ones came in - that being the main reason for me to
suggest cancellation. I am back on 10 July and if we have received at
least a much bigger amount to make a worthwhile symposium possible I
will be just as happy to get the wheels rolling. To have 30 or so papers
(currently about a 3rd as posters) means a 1 day symposium which is just
not on for all the expenses one has to pay.3. At the early bird
registration up to date only 11 people registered and we need more than
4 to 5 times this amount of registered people to again ensure a
worthwhile symposium.4. Raquel is going out of her way to assist and
without her help it would not be possible to get the ball rolling again
- thanks again.I trust this email will help to get everobody on board.
It has never been my intention to not let ISIAME go on but I was
dissilutioned with the poor respons for everything already done.Frans


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</div><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message
--------</div><div>From: Frank Berry
<berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk>
</div><div>Date: 06/27/2016 10:59 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: Frans
Waanders
<Frans.Waanders AT nwu.ac.za>,
Raquel Richardson
<raquel AT ap22ude.co.za>,

berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk,

kuzmann AT caesar.elte.hu,
edson AT cce.ufes.br,

haraldur.p.gunnlaugsson AT cern.ch,

sunhui AT dicp.ac.cn,
taozhang AT dicp.ac.cn,

wangjh AT dicp.ac.cn,

lazar.karoly AT energia.mta.hu,
'Stanislaw Dubiel'
<Stanislaw.Dubiel AT fis.agh.edu.pl>,
aderbal47 AT gmail.com,

stevensjohng AT gmail.com,

robi AT ifd.uni.wroc.pl,
reissner AT ifp.tuwien.ac.at,

vpopov AT imp.uran.ru,
Guido.Langouche AT kuleuven.be,

mix AT lists.kfki.hu,
israel.felner AT mail.huji.ac.il,

gdzhbj AT mail.iggcas.ac.cn,
mosslab.kz AT mail.ru,

yoshida AT ms.sist.ac.jp,

lttt AT physics.by,
kbr AT saao.ac.za,

Lodya.Lodya AT sasol.com,

S.D.Forder AT shu.ac.uk,
kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp,

magnet AT uestc.edu.cn,

amulaba AT uj.ac.za,
klingel AT uni-mainz.de,

ksenofon AT uni-mainz.de,
massimo.carbucicchio AT unipr.it,

jean-marc.greneche AT univ-lemans.fr,
jumas AT univ-montp2.fr,

lippens AT univ-montp2.fr,

jakub.navarik AT upol.cz,
libor.machala AT upol.cz,

nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu,
Deena.Naidoo AT wits.ac.za,

Gerrard.Peter AT wits.ac.za,
Hilary.Masenda AT wits.ac.za
</div><div>Subject: [Mix] ISIAME 2016
</div><div>
</div>
>>> "Frank Berry"
>>> <berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk>
>>> 2016-06-27T11:59:00.805502 >>>

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Colleagues

I am writing because I am becoming concerned with the rhetoric of recent
emails and the possible damage to the well-being of our community.

I recognise the strength of feeling being expressed and do not in any
way wish to diminish the validity of that feeling. I would also make
clear that, after returning from MECAME on 6 June, I wrote to Frans
explaining that, with regret, I would not be able to attend ISIAME .

It seems to me that Frans has tried to fulfiorganise a successful ISIAME in a
good location in South Africa but, at
a crucial juncture , found the financial liability too great to
continue. Colleagues who have made non-refundable financial commitments
now face difficulties. Krish indicated last week the possibility of an
alternative venue. Would Krish be willing to explore this and , in
collaboration with Frans, find a way forward so that ISIAME could be
held in South Africa on the dates originally planned?

I would also like to suggest that we as a community give support to
Krish and Frans in their attempts to find a way forward. This will not
be easy for them and compromise by everyone might have to be accepted.
I do not think that further expressions of blame will be helpful and I
would encourage us all to act collegiately to resolve a situation which
is difficult for many people, albeit in different ways. ISIAME led by
Massimo has a good tradition and it would be most unfortunate if the
current difficulties led to its demise and fractures amongst our
community.

With my kindest regards and best wishes

Frank



From: Raquel Richardson
[mailto:raquel AT ap22ude.co.za]
Sent: 24 June 2016 10:59
To: 'Stanislaw Dubiel';
berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk;

kuzmann AT caesar.elte.hu;
edson AT cce.ufes.br;

haraldur.p.gunnlaugsson AT cern.ch;

sunhui AT dicp.ac.cn;
taozhang AT dicp.ac.cn;

wangjh AT dicp.ac.cn;

lazar.karoly AT energia.mta.hu;
aderbal47 AT gmail.com;

stevensjohng AT gmail.com;

robi AT ifd.uni.wroc.pl;
reissner AT ifp.tuwien.ac.at;

vpopov AT imp.uran.ru;
Guido.Langouche AT kuleuven.be;

mix AT lists.kfki.hu;
israel.felner AT mail.huji.ac.il;

gdzhbj AT mail.iggcas.ac.cn;
mosslab.kz AT mail.ru;

yoshida AT ms.sist.ac.jp;

Frans.Waanders AT nwu.ac.za;
lttt AT physics.by;

kbr AT saao.ac.za;

Lodya.Lodya AT sasol.com;
S.D.Forder AT shu.ac.uk;

kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp;

magnet AT uestc.edu.cn;
amulaba AT uj.ac.za;

klingel AT uni-mainz.de;

ksenofon AT uni-mainz.de;
massimo.carbucicchio AT unipr.it;

jean-marc.greneche AT univ-lemans.fr;
jumas AT univ-montp2.fr;

lippens AT univ-montp2.fr;

jakub.navarik AT upol.cz;
libor.machala AT upol.cz;

nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu;
Deena.Naidoo AT wits.ac.za;

Gerrard.Peter AT wits.ac.za;
Hilary.Masenda AT wits.ac.za
Subject: RE: ISIAME2016/Stanislaw

ISIAME Board Members

There seems to be a lot of emails, blame and personal issues being
thrown around. As a third party not prevalent to all the information, I
stand to be corrected about ISIAME Cape Town 2016, but this is how the
information is coming across.

From my initial discussions with Frans, it was mentioned that at the
last ISIAME a vote was taken and majority voted South Africa with the
provision of majority attending. On this understanding, Frans set up
ISIAME in Cape Town at the Lagoon Beach. Due to economic downturn and
currently the reduction of number of attendants at most conferences /
events, he confirmed the numbers at 100 x delegates, which should have
been pretty easy to obtain.

The concern is that not many people have registered or have shown an
interest in attending. The Lagoon Beach hotel, agreed to cancel the
booking without any cancellation fees if done so by mid-June. If Frans
had not done so, there would have been cancellation fees into the
hundreds of thousands of Rands… which I assume none of you would have
been prepared to account for! Granted Krish has given an alternative
venue, but there are numerous things to consider when hosting a
conference, i.e. Affordable accommodation in the area? Getting to and
from the venue? Quality of venue, suppliers, safety, etc. If South
Africa is still a consideration, it is possible to re-evaluate the
entire conference and see if its viable.

From my limited understanding, numbers are not the only issue here. If
you do not have quality and the correct quantity of abstracts and
presentations, then your conference will not carry any value. Only a
limited number have been received. As members of the ISIAME board,
where is your cut-off point for the conference?

As for you Mr Stanislaw Dubiel, you mention below the lack of response
to your registration, howe18h57pm and Frans sent the email out to cancel the
conference shortly
after.

I’ve dealt with several conferences before and in my experience have not
seen this type of disjointed animosity. I would have assumed as the
ISIAME board members you would all come together to try come up with a
resolution that would work for all.

I am here to assist anyway possible with any travel / conference side of
ISIAME.

Kind regards
Raquel Richardson
Ap22ude (Pty) Ltd
Cell: +27 82 509 6485
Tel: +27 11 475 2750
Fax: 086 593 7975
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kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp<mailto:kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp>;
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Cc:
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Subject: ISIAME2016/Stanislaw

Hello everyone,

I do not know how Frans counts the paid-up attendees. In my case, I
wanted to pay the fee several days ago (the deadline for the reduced fee
is 1-st July) but no response received frbank account to which the money
should be transferred.
I can imagine that this was not an exception. Furthermore, many people
have funds just for one foreign conference, so they have to make their
decision on the choice of the conference well in advance. Unfortunately,
the organisation of the ISIAME 2016 was very bad i.e. Despite Frans had
4 years to prepare the conference it was not sure until recently whether
or not the conference will take place at all. So I do not wonder that
the interest in the ISIAME 2016 was so low. Therefore, Frans is the only
one who takes the responsibility for the failure. Now, instead of trying
to co-operate with some people who want to solve the problem e. g.
Krish, he buries his head into sand!
It seems that he is unable to organise the ISIAME, so I suggest that we
ask people from the Czech Republic (Olomouc University) to organise this
conference next year (The wanted to organizes this conference this year,
but the decision of the ISIAME Committee made in Dalian - 2012 - was
(unfortunately) in favour of Frans).

Greetings Stanislaw Dubiel
Stanislaw M. Dubiel, MSc, PhD, DSc, FInstPhys
Professor of Physics
Faculty of Physics & Applied Computer Science
AGH University of Science & Technology
al. A. Mickiewicza 30, 30-059 Krakow
Poland
tel: +48 12 617 2973
fax: + 48 12 634 0010
e-mail:
Stanislaw.Dubiel AT orion.fis.agh.edu.pl<mailto:Stanislaw.Dubiel AT orion.fis.agh.edu.pl>

>>> "Frans Waanders" 23.06.16 20:23 >>>
Thanks for your effort Krish
The venue is not the problem. Raquel even asked the price for 40 people
and we had only 11 paid-up attendees at the time I had to decide.
We have far to little abstracts and with less than 30 abstracts I still
do not see the use of carrying on- I extended the deadline for abstracts
with 1 month with hardly any additional ones submitted. Please do not
blame me for this as I sent out various notes without response
Krish I think nobody will want to travel every day to Ithemba labs
making attendance even smaller.
I am currently in Namibia at a mine with limited contact until 1 July
I only had limited support from all and rather now people angry with me
than a hopeless undersupported symposium
Frans



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Krish Bharuth-Ram
<kbr AT saao.ac.za<mailto:kbr AT saao.ac.za>>
Date: 06/20/2016 18:43 (GMT+01:00)
To: Frans Waanders
<Frans.Waanders AT nwu.ac.za<mailto:Frans.Waanders AT nwu.ac.za>>,
raquel AT ap22ude.co.za<mailto:raquel AT ap22ude.co.za>,
berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk<mailto:berryfjz AT bham.ac.uk>,
kuzmann AT caesar.elte.hu<mailto:kuzmann AT caesar.elte.hu>,
edson AT cce.ufes.br<mailto:edson AT cce.ufes.br>,
haraldur.p.gunnlaugsson AT cern.ch<mailto:haraldur.p.gunnlaugsson AT cern.ch>,
sunhui AT dicp.ac.cn<mailto:sunhui AT dicp.ac.cn>,
taozhang AT dicp.ac.cn<mailto:taozhang AT dicp.ac.cn>,
wangjh AT dicp.ac.cn<mailto:wangjh AT dicp.ac.cn>,
lazar.karoly AT energia.mta.hu<mailto:lazar.karoly AT energia.mta.hu>,
Stanislaw.Dubiel AT fis.agh.edu.pl<mailto:Stanislaw.Dubiel AT fis.agh.edu.pl>,
aderbal47 AT gmail.com<mailto:aderbal47 AT gmail.com>,
stevensjohng AT gmail.com<mailto:stevensjohng AT gmail.com>,
robi AT ifd.uni.wroc.pl<mailto:robi AT ifd.uni.wroc.pl>,
Michael Reissner
<reissner AT ifp.tuwien.ac.at<mailto:reissner AT ifp.tuwien.ac.at>>,
vpopov AT imp.uran.ru<mailto:vpopov AT imp.uran.ru>,
Guido Langouche
<Guido.Langouche AT kuleuven.be<mailto:Guido.Langouche AT kuleuven.be>>,
mix AT lists.kfki.hu<mailto:mix AT lists.kfki.hu>,
israel.felner AT mail.huji.ac.il<mailto:israel.felner AT mail.huji.ac.il>,
gdzhbj AT mail.iggcas.ac.cn<mailto:gdzhbj AT mail.iggcas.ac.cn>,
mosslab.kz AT mail.ru<mailto:mosslab.kz AT mail.ru>,
yoshida AT ms.sist.ac.jp<mailto:yoshida AT ms.sist.ac.jp>,
lttt AT physics.by<mailto:lttt AT physics.by>,
kbr AT saao.ac.za<mailto:kbr AT saao.ac.za>,
Lodya.Lodya AT sasol.com<mailto:Lodya.Lodya AT sasol.com>,
S.D.Forder AT shu.ac.uk<mailto:S.D.Forder AT shu.ac.uk>,
kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp<mailto:kubuki AT tmu.ac.jp>,
magnet AT uestc.edu.cn<mailto:magnet AT uestc.edu.cn>,
amulaba AT uj.ac.za<mailto:amulaba AT uj.ac.za>,
klingel AT uni-mainz.de<mailto:klingel AT uni-mainz.de>,
ksenofon AT uni-mainz.de<mailto:ksenofon AT uni-mainz.de>,
mjean-marc.greneche AT univ-lemans.fr<mailto:jean-marc.greneche AT univ-lemans.fr>,
jumas AT univ-montp2.fr<mailto:jumas AT univ-montp2.fr>,
lippens AT univ-montp2.fr<mailto:lippens AT univ-montp2.fr>,
jakub.navarik AT upol.cz<mailto:jakub.navarik AT upol.cz>,
libor.machala AT upol.cz<mailto:libor.machala AT upol.cz>,
nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu<mailto:nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu>,
Deena.Naidoo AT wits.ac.za<mailto:Deena.Naidoo AT wits.ac.za>,
Gerrard.Peter AT wits.ac.za<mailto:Gerrard.Peter AT wits.ac.za>,
Hilary.Masenda AT wits.ac.za<mailto:Hilary.Masenda AT wits.ac.za>
Subject: Re: AW: ISIAME2016


>>> "Krish Bharuth-Ram" 2016-06-20T19:43:22.080483 >>>
Dear Frans
Following the email from Guido and Michael perhaps you may wish to
re-consider the decision to cancel the conference.
I had long ago suggested iThemba LABS as a venue, where we could have
got the auditorium (able to seat 200) at no cost together with good
space for poster sessions, as well a conference secretariat.

I could call the Director tomorrow and discuss availability, etc.

Please let me know asap.

Kind regards
Krish.

On 2016/06/20 06:52 PM, Michael Reissner wrote:
Dear Frans,

I am sorry, but I cannot confirm that I understand your decision to
cancel the symposion. A cancellation 1 year in advance might be ok, but
not 10 weeks before the start. For you the cancellation might be the
easiest way, but you forget that people have paid a lot of money in
advance, which they will not get back. E.g. I have paid the flight for
me and my wife, who I wanted to take with me, some months ago. I cannot
cancel this flight. I also booked the hotel for us. Hopefully we can
cancel this. As this would have been my first time in South Africa, I
have booked a pre-conference tour for us, which I also cannot cancel
without loosing a lot of money. I am sure that I am not the only one who
has such problems.

I do not know what you have expected. In my opinion I have expected in
best case 60 participants. What about the South African Mössbauer
community? Are they not involved or interested in this conference?

In principle such small conferences are much easier and cheaper than a
conference with 200 people. A small lecture hall at the university or
even a seminar room at the institute is enough. Coffee can be prepared
and served by students or secretary. This all is usually for nothing. By
the way ISIAME at Budapest was organized very well in that way. I never
understood, why organization of conference are nowadays always given to
some agencies and are hold in hotels, where you have to pay a lot for
the infrastructure.

You wonder that you have only 11 registrations up to now, but I have to
remind you that the deadline even for the early bird registration is
July 1st. You had a long list of invited talks. I suppose that everyone
has confirmed to come. A cancellation of 2 is not large number.

I am not astonished that you could not find sponsors for this small
meeting. I only wonder that you seem to have calculated with sponsorship
money. Such money should never be part of the budget calculation. If it
comes, it should be used to support people to come to the conference.

In 2009 I have organized ICAME. We expected , due to preregistration 400
participants. Due to the economical crisis 2008, all sponsors and a lot
of colleagues cancelled their participation. At the end we had ca. 250
people. Nevertheless we could run the conference, because with some
reductions and because in my budget I have only assumed 150 full paying
participants. More serious was ICAME 2011 in Japan, because after
Fukushima nobody wanted to come. For the organizers it was very serious,
but they never thought on cancellation of the conference.

It is also a very bad sign for future conferences. If one cannot trust,
that the organizer will do everything that the conference can take
place, many will be very cautious to plan a partizipation, even when
invited.

I understand that you are disappointed about “no interest”. But there
are some people who were interested, who areexpected that you cancel your
contract and look on really cheap
solution, eg. at the university, which can be covered by the
registration fee.

Only to mention, there was a few weeks ago msms conference with only 30
participants. But people say it was very good program and interesting
discussions.

I hope this is not the end of the series of ISIAME conferences.

Best regards

Michael

Asoc.Prof.Dr.Michael Reissner
TU Wien
Institute of Solid State Physics
Wiedner Hauptstrasse 8-10
1040 Wien
AUSTRIA

Phon: +43 1 58801 13772
FAX: +43 1 58801 9 13772
Email:
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Von: Frans Waanders
[mailto:Frans.Waanders AT nwu.ac.za]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2016 20:58
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Betreff: ISIAME2016

Dear all
It is with regret that I have to cancel the upcoming ISIAME2016
symposium that was to be held in the Lagoon beach Hotel Cape Town

The main reason to me is the lack of interest;
We have at the deadline for abstracts (today) only received 27 abstracts
of which 7 are to be presented as posters. I have extended the deadline
for abstracts with a month and only a few extra abstracts were
submitted, mainly in the last 2 days. Some of the Invited speakers have
not yet sent any abstract and others have sent more than one but due to
financial constraints only one person can come and 2 Invited speakers
have canceled their contributions due to legitimate reasons. I used the
mix email as well as some 180 names I had on the lists of persons that
attended ISIAME in the past of which only a handful responded and I am
trying to answers each person that has sent an email regarding
ISIAME2016
At this stage we only have 11 paid registered persons for the
conference.

The next problem is funding:
Some people suggested that the conference venue is very expensive but
the request was made in China that we should hold it in Cape Town and
both Raquel and myself looked for the the registration fee it is not that
expensive. For the Pittsburgh Coal
Conference (to be held in August 2016 in Cape Town) the registration fee
is $800 and we have over 200 participants already from all over the
world. We wanted more than 300 for this conference but clearly the
economic atmosphere must play a role.

Sponsorship:
A successfull conference or symposium is based on sound sponsorship. I
have obtained sponsorship from my own university (euro800) and from
Sasol the same amount and I used some euro3000 from my own research
funding and did not receive any sponsorship from overseas or Moessbauer
industrial persons. I paid the initial deposit with this money and
today was the deadline of paying the next deposit or we will incur
fines. We spoke with the people from the venue and they were prepared to
not charge us a fine for cancellation and even suggested we reduce the
amount of delegates to 40 without additional costs and cheaper rates -
thanks to all the efforts by Raquel.

I had many discussions with Raquel who assisted me on the whole
organization of the symposium and it is her experience and my believe
that with 11 registered delegates to date we will not have even have 40
people in the next month or so to have the symposium going further - let
alone in the next day!

I am thus very sorry for people who have already payed or booked flights
but the registration fees will be paid back as soon as possible

I am very sad to have made this announcement but I am not prepared or
able to carry any extra costs and I trust that everybody will understand
my reasoning and final decission
Frans

Prof Frans Waanders Pr Ing. Pr Sci. Nat.
Professor en Direkteur
Skool vir Chemiese en Mineraalingenieurswese
NWU
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NWU
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