ELFT HÍRADÓ

["Nagy, Denes Lajos" <nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu>]

Kedves Kollégák,

a Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság petíciós felhívása a magyar ESRF-tagság 
fenntartása érdekében komolyan megmozgatta mind a hazai, mind a nemzetközi 
tudományos közösséget. Az első 24 óra után az aláírók száma már 250 körül 
járt és azóta is folyamatosan növekszik; kedd délelőttre remélhetőleg már 
a 300-at is meg fogja haladni. Rendkívül tiszteletreméltó az a 
felelősségtudat, ami ebben a reakcióban megnyilvánul, hiszen az látható 
belőle, hogy a kutatók véleményük kinyilvánításával segíteni kívánják a 
kutatáspolitika vezetőit abban, hogy optimális döntéseket hozzanak, és 
elkerüljék az országra és a kutatásra káros következményekkel járó, hibás 
lépéseket.

A change.org petíciós webhely adatvédelmi politikája nem engedi meg az 
aláírók neveinek közzétételét (természetesen ettől függetlenül bármelyik 
aláíró felfedheti saját kilétét). Ugyanakkor az aláírásokhoz fűzött 
hozzászólások nyilvánosak; az alábbiakban az első nap terméséből álljon 
itt egy válogatás.

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Gabriella Pasztor VERNIER, SWITZERLAND

Fontos, hogy a magyar kutatok tevekeny reszesei legyenek az nemzetkozi 
kutatasi infrastrukturaknak es igy a vilagelvonalaban dolgozhassanak.

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Andrea Somogyi FRANCE

Rendkivul fontosnak tartom a magyar kutatas nemzetkozi szinvonalanak 
fenntartasara, hogy Magyarorszag az ESRF tagja maradjon.

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Ferenc Iglói BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

Participating of the Hungarian scientists in the ESRF was very useful in 
the past and will be very important to be continued in the future.

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Gyozo Garab SZEGED, HUNGARY

These facilities represent a different (outstanding) level of R+D+I - we 
(I mean Hungary, not R+D+I) can live without these facilitdes, but we 
shall fall behind (more) in international competition, and not only in 
basic sciences.

How do we expect other countries showing any interest in ELI-ALPS if we 
think that our participation in ESRF does not worth this minimal 
investment? and and are we really serious to run a similar facility in 
Hungary?

HUF 76 M is two (very moderate) OTKA grants (true, for 3 years), or about 
one third of a Momemtum (Lendulet) grant - but, in contrast to these, it 
offers might serve more scientists the opportunity to work at world-level 
w top-notch techniques, and would do more good to Hungarian science (also 
technology, indirectly) than any of those actions.

Hungary spends ~two orders of magnitude more on just one single reserach 
area (brain researh).

This facility is for multidisciplinary research..

X-FELs are in the forefront of interest öf research in all countries where 
governments pay attention to science and technology (and consider these as 
the best investment).

We cannot afford not to spend on these - this will lead to serious losses 
in long.run

I am afraid that we may face the same problem w our fee at ILL.

It is not a good idea not to belong to a club of elite science. Tthey 
count on us in this club and Hungary has a good reputation there - it is 
easy to loose and destroy all these, and far more difficult to re-build it 
from scratch.

Decision makers shold consult international scietific committees - and 
correct this serious mistake as soon as possible.

Please also forward this petition to the advisory committees of academy 
instititues, and invitees of the World Science Forum! I am convinced they 
all will sign it w/o hesitation.

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Ralf Röhlsberger GERMANY

The contribution of Hungarian scientists is vital for the development of 
modern x-ray spectroscopic techniques like resonant inelastic x-ray 
scattering, nuclear resonant scattering and others for which their access 
to the ESRF plays a pivotal role.

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Gabor Naray-Szabo BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility allows Hungarian scientists to 
perform cutting edge research. Thus, if it will be dropped from the 
available research infrastructure, Hungarian physics, material science, 
chemistry, as well as molecular biology will considerably suffer. I 
understand that the Hungarian Academy of Sciences has no funds for a 
support, however, a source should be found within the state budget to 
allow finnacing. Research and innovation will be supported by a huge grant 
from the European Union structural funds between 2014 and 2020. These 
should be used, among others, for funding of the Hungarian participation 
in ESRF.

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Matyas Czugler BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

Maintaining access to synchrotron facilities is of prime importance in 
sustaining the role of experimental methods, esp. diffraction, in this 
turbulent world.

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Laszlo Kover DEBRECEN, HUNGARY

The access of Hungarian researchers to the European Synchrotron Radiation 
Facility is of primary importance for the Hungarian scientific community.

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Zsófia Kókai LUND

Many special experiments can be done here, using ESRF is fundemental for 
several Hungarian researchers.

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Henriett Diana Szucs SZEGED, HUNGARY

Because the most dynamically growing part of the pharmaceutical industry 
bases on the protein structure determination. The hungarian researchers 
cannot keep the international progression of the protein science without 
this membership.

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Christopher Milne VILLIGEN-PSI, SWITZERLAND

To withdraw from ESRF while maintaining membership within the European 
XFEL will make it very difficult for Hungarian researchers to efficiently 
take advantage of 4th-generation X-ray sources. The timing for this 
decision could not be worse with the first XFEL experiments planned for 
2017.

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Tobias Harlang LUND, SWEDEN

Hungarian scientists have brought unique expertise to the ESRF in the form 
of X-ray spectroscopy of transition metal complexes, which has led to 
important discoveries for future light-harvesting systems.

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Keijo Hamalainen HELSINKI, FINLAND

ESRF is the most successfull European research infrastructure. The active 
participation is vital for the Hungarian scientific community.

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Lubica Urbanikova BRATISLAVA, SLOVAKIA

ESRF is fundamental for many fields of Hungarian science, especially 
protein structure determination. Visegrad group is a group of four 
partners, not three, not two.

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Veronika Harmat BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility is one of the most important 
synchrotron facilities for many fields of Hungarian research. It would be 
of great importance to retain the membership of Hungary in ESRF for 
continuing high level research.

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Ferenc Adorján BUDAPEST

I am signing because such a withdrawal would generate a further loss of 
the most talented and ambitious scientists from Hungary.

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Aleksandr Chumakov FRANCE

It is important to assure the access of Hungarian scientists to a 
world-leading synchrotron radiation facility

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Edit Szilágyi BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

One of the most successful research groups of the Department of Materials 
Science by Nuclear Methods of the Wigner Research Centre for Physics, 
Hungarian Academy of Sciences will lose its main experimental facility 
should Hungary withdraw from ESRF.

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Wojciech Gawelda GERMANY

ESRF has served for almost 2 decades now as an important scientific 
playground for many Hungarian scientists and helped training students and 
scientists in using this sophisticated X-tay machine. This process should 
continue, especially having in mind other future European facilities, like 
European XFEL, where Hungary actively participates as a shareholder. This 
decision seems really short-sighted and wrong.

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Ferenc Billes BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

I am signing since I find the participation of Hungary in ESRF useful and 
important for the development of the Hungarian research.

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Krisztina László BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

I am signing as a frequent user of ESRF. With the use of this instrument 
is we were able to achieve important results and publish them in high 
profile international journals.

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Jorge Serrano IBARRA, I

I am signing this petition as a result of my experience as researcher at 
ESRF. Hungary withdrawal from ESRF would reduce the potential to develop 
cutting-edge science in the country and harm long-standing collaborations 
existing with scientist of other European countries.

There is surely a way to get the necessary funding required to continue 
Hungary active participation at ESRF, and I trust the Hungarian Government 
to find a solution.

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Aleksander Dybvik SAINT LOUIS, MO

It would be devastating for the Hungarian academics, who wish to use these 
facilities to benefit research of various sciences. Not just for the 
Hungarian people, but also the rest of the world. Hungary, with a history 
of so many scholars, should keep all doors open for the future generations 
of scientist.

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Professor Moshe Deutsch GIVATAYIM, ISRAEL

Hungarian science once led the world:Teller, Wigner, von-Karman, Szilard, 
Szent-Gyorgy, and many more. It could regain this stature, but not if 
Hungarian government denies its scientists access to leading research 
facilities like ESRF. Az ESRF tagság ára kevés, de az értéke magyar 
tudomanynak- oriási ! ! !

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Gabor Forgacs POTSDAM, NY

I'm signing this petition because a country like Hungary with rich past 
and present scientific heritage and accomplishments should be able to 
benefit from this resource to continue to contribute to the scientific 
discovery.

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Karl Witte GERMANY

I am signing because scientists from Hungary have made many valuable 
contributions to research with synchrotron radiation at the ESRF, and much 
more can be expected.

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A Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság nevében kérem, hogy az aláírásgyűjtést és a 
felelős, komoly vélemények kinyilvánítását saját és együttműködő 
partnereink köreiben mindaddig folytassuk, amíg az államigazgatás és az 
MTA vezetői megnyugtató megoldást nem találnak Magyarország 
ESRF-tagságának hosszú távú fenntartására.

Üdvözlettel,

      Nagy Dénes Lajos

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On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Nagy, Denes Lajos wrote:

> Magyarország 2000 óta tagja Európa legnagyobb teljesítőképességű 
> szinkrotronsugár-forrásának, a grenoble-i European Synchrotron Radiation 
> Facility-nek (ESRF, http://www.esrf.eu/). Az elsősorban anyagszerkezeti és 
> analitikai vizsgálatok célját szolgáló kutatási nagyberendezést mintegy 20 
> magyar egyetemi és kutatóintézeti csoport használja főleg a műszaki és 
> természettudományok, valamint az élettudományok területéről. Az ESRF magyar 
> tagdíja évi 76 millió forint, amihez azonban pillanatnyilag nem lehet 
> finanszírozót találni. Ez azt jelenti, hogy 15 igen sikeres év után 
> Magyarország gyakorlatilag kilép az ESRF szervezetéből, ezzel elzárva a 
> magyar kutatók elől ennek az egyedülálló nagyberendezésnek a használati 
> lehetőségét.
>
> A Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság petícióban kéri Magyarország Kormányát és a 
> Magyar Tudományos Akadémiát, hogy találjanak módot hazánk ESRF-tagságának 
> fenntartására. Annak érdekében, hogy a petíció külföldi együttműködő 
> partnereinkhez is eljusson, angol nyelven íródott. A petíció a
>
> https://www.change.org/p/government-of-hungary-hungarian-academy-of-sciences-stop-hungary-s-withdrawal-from-the-european-synchrotron-radiation-facility
>
> címen érhető el. További részletek a petícióban olvashatók.
>
> Kérjük mindazokat, akik Magyarország ESRF-tagságának fenntartását fontosnak 
> tartják - akár Magyarországról, más ESRF-tagországból, vagy a világ más 
> részéről -, hogy ezt petíciónk aláírásával erősítsék meg, és buzdítsák erre 
> kollégáikat és együttműködő partnereiket is.
>
> Egyedül a kutatóközösség nyomatékos kiállása akadályozhatja meg Magyarország 
> kilépését az ESRF-ből.
>
> Budapest, 2015. június 28.
>
>                       Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság