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Re: [Fizinfo] Magyarország maradjon a European Synchrotron Radiation Facility tagja!


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  • From: "Nagy, Denes Lajos" <nagy.denes AT wigner.mta.hu>
  • To: Fizinfo <fizinfo AT lists.kfki.hu>
  • Subject: Re: [Fizinfo] Magyarország maradjon a European Synchrotron Radiation Facility tagja!
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:01:53 +0200 (CEST)

Kedves Kollégák,

a Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság petíciós felhívása a magyar ESRF-tagság fenntartása érdekében komolyan megmozgatta mind a hazai, mind a nemzetközi tudományos közösséget. Az első 24 óra után az aláírók száma már 250 körül járt és azóta is folyamatosan növekszik; kedd délelőttre remélhetőleg már a 300-at is meg fogja haladni. Rendkívül tiszteletreméltó az a felelősségtudat, ami ebben a reakcióban megnyilvánul, hiszen az látható belőle, hogy a kutatók véleményük kinyilvánításával segíteni kívánják a kutatáspolitika vezetőit abban, hogy optimális döntéseket hozzanak, és elkerüljék az országra és a kutatásra káros következményekkel járó, hibás lépéseket.

A change.org petíciós webhely adatvédelmi politikája nem engedi meg az aláírók neveinek közzétételét (természetesen ettől függetlenül bármelyik aláíró felfedheti saját kilétét). Ugyanakkor az aláírásokhoz fűzött hozzászólások nyilvánosak; az alábbiakban az első nap terméséből álljon itt egy válogatás.

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Gabriella Pasztor VERNIER, SWITZERLAND

Fontos, hogy a magyar kutatok tevekeny reszesei legyenek az nemzetkozi kutatasi infrastrukturaknak es igy a vilagelvonalaban dolgozhassanak.

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Andrea Somogyi FRANCE

Rendkivul fontosnak tartom a magyar kutatas nemzetkozi szinvonalanak fenntartasara, hogy Magyarorszag az ESRF tagja maradjon.

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Ferenc Iglói BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

Participating of the Hungarian scientists in the ESRF was very useful in the past and will be very important to be continued in the future.

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Gyozo Garab SZEGED, HUNGARY

These facilities represent a different (outstanding) level of R+D+I - we (I mean Hungary, not R+D+I) can live without these facilitdes, but we shall fall behind (more) in international competition, and not only in basic sciences.

How do we expect other countries showing any interest in ELI-ALPS if we think that our participation in ESRF does not worth this minimal investment? and and are we really serious to run a similar facility in Hungary?

HUF 76 M is two (very moderate) OTKA grants (true, for 3 years), or about one third of a Momemtum (Lendulet) grant - but, in contrast to these, it offers might serve more scientists the opportunity to work at world-level w top-notch techniques, and would do more good to Hungarian science (also technology, indirectly) than any of those actions.

Hungary spends ~two orders of magnitude more on just one single reserach area (brain researh).

This facility is for multidisciplinary research..

X-FELs are in the forefront of interest öf research in all countries where governments pay attention to science and technology (and consider these as the best investment).

We cannot afford not to spend on these - this will lead to serious losses in long.run

I am afraid that we may face the same problem w our fee at ILL.

It is not a good idea not to belong to a club of elite science. Tthey count on us in this club and Hungary has a good reputation there - it is easy to loose and destroy all these, and far more difficult to re-build it from scratch.

Decision makers shold consult international scietific committees - and correct this serious mistake as soon as possible.

Please also forward this petition to the advisory committees of academy instititues, and invitees of the World Science Forum! I am convinced they all will sign it w/o hesitation.

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Ralf Röhlsberger GERMANY

The contribution of Hungarian scientists is vital for the development of modern x-ray spectroscopic techniques like resonant inelastic x-ray scattering, nuclear resonant scattering and others for which their access to the ESRF plays a pivotal role.

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Gabor Naray-Szabo BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility allows Hungarian scientists to perform cutting edge research. Thus, if it will be dropped from the available research infrastructure, Hungarian physics, material science, chemistry, as well as molecular biology will considerably suffer. I understand that the Hungarian Academy of Sciences has no funds for a support, however, a source should be found within the state budget to allow finnacing. Research and innovation will be supported by a huge grant from the European Union structural funds between 2014 and 2020. These should be used, among others, for funding of the Hungarian participation in ESRF.

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Matyas Czugler BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

Maintaining access to synchrotron facilities is of prime importance in sustaining the role of experimental methods, esp. diffraction, in this turbulent world.

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Laszlo Kover DEBRECEN, HUNGARY

The access of Hungarian researchers to the European Synchrotron Radiation Facility is of primary importance for the Hungarian scientific community.

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Zsófia Kókai LUND

Many special experiments can be done here, using ESRF is fundemental for several Hungarian researchers.

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Henriett Diana Szucs SZEGED, HUNGARY

Because the most dynamically growing part of the pharmaceutical industry bases on the protein structure determination. The hungarian researchers cannot keep the international progression of the protein science without this membership.

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Christopher Milne VILLIGEN-PSI, SWITZERLAND

To withdraw from ESRF while maintaining membership within the European XFEL will make it very difficult for Hungarian researchers to efficiently take advantage of 4th-generation X-ray sources. The timing for this decision could not be worse with the first XFEL experiments planned for 2017.

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Tobias Harlang LUND, SWEDEN

Hungarian scientists have brought unique expertise to the ESRF in the form of X-ray spectroscopy of transition metal complexes, which has led to important discoveries for future light-harvesting systems.

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Keijo Hamalainen HELSINKI, FINLAND

ESRF is the most successfull European research infrastructure. The active participation is vital for the Hungarian scientific community.

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Lubica Urbanikova BRATISLAVA, SLOVAKIA

ESRF is fundamental for many fields of Hungarian science, especially protein structure determination. Visegrad group is a group of four partners, not three, not two.

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Veronika Harmat BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility is one of the most important synchrotron facilities for many fields of Hungarian research. It would be of great importance to retain the membership of Hungary in ESRF for continuing high level research.

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Ferenc Adorján BUDAPEST

I am signing because such a withdrawal would generate a further loss of the most talented and ambitious scientists from Hungary.

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Aleksandr Chumakov FRANCE

It is important to assure the access of Hungarian scientists to a world-leading synchrotron radiation facility

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Edit Szilágyi BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

One of the most successful research groups of the Department of Materials Science by Nuclear Methods of the Wigner Research Centre for Physics, Hungarian Academy of Sciences will lose its main experimental facility should Hungary withdraw from ESRF.

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Wojciech Gawelda GERMANY

ESRF has served for almost 2 decades now as an important scientific playground for many Hungarian scientists and helped training students and scientists in using this sophisticated X-tay machine. This process should continue, especially having in mind other future European facilities, like European XFEL, where Hungary actively participates as a shareholder. This decision seems really short-sighted and wrong.

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Ferenc Billes BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

I am signing since I find the participation of Hungary in ESRF useful and important for the development of the Hungarian research.

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Krisztina László BUDAPEST, HUNGARY

I am signing as a frequent user of ESRF. With the use of this instrument is we were able to achieve important results and publish them in high profile international journals.

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Jorge Serrano IBARRA, I

I am signing this petition as a result of my experience as researcher at ESRF. Hungary withdrawal from ESRF would reduce the potential to develop cutting-edge science in the country and harm long-standing collaborations existing with scientist of other European countries.

There is surely a way to get the necessary funding required to continue Hungary active participation at ESRF, and I trust the Hungarian Government to find a solution.

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Aleksander Dybvik SAINT LOUIS, MO

It would be devastating for the Hungarian academics, who wish to use these facilities to benefit research of various sciences. Not just for the Hungarian people, but also the rest of the world. Hungary, with a history of so many scholars, should keep all doors open for the future generations of scientist.

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Professor Moshe Deutsch GIVATAYIM, ISRAEL

Hungarian science once led the world:Teller, Wigner, von-Karman, Szilard, Szent-Gyorgy, and many more. It could regain this stature, but not if Hungarian government denies its scientists access to leading research facilities like ESRF. Az ESRF tagság ára kevés, de az értéke magyar tudomanynak- oriási ! ! !

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Gabor Forgacs POTSDAM, NY

I'm signing this petition because a country like Hungary with rich past and present scientific heritage and accomplishments should be able to benefit from this resource to continue to contribute to the scientific discovery.

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Karl Witte GERMANY

I am signing because scientists from Hungary have made many valuable contributions to research with synchrotron radiation at the ESRF, and much more can be expected.

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A Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság nevében kérem, hogy az aláírásgyűjtést és a felelős, komoly vélemények kinyilvánítását saját és együttműködő partnereink köreiben mindaddig folytassuk, amíg az államigazgatás és az MTA vezetői megnyugtató megoldást nem találnak Magyarország ESRF-tagságának hosszú távú fenntartására.

Üdvözlettel,

Nagy Dénes Lajos

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On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Nagy, Denes Lajos wrote:

Magyarország 2000 óta tagja Európa legnagyobb teljesítőképességű szinkrotronsugár-forrásának, a grenoble-i European Synchrotron Radiation Facility-nek (ESRF, http://www.esrf.eu/). Az elsősorban anyagszerkezeti és analitikai vizsgálatok célját szolgáló kutatási nagyberendezést mintegy 20 magyar egyetemi és kutatóintézeti csoport használja főleg a műszaki és természettudományok, valamint az élettudományok területéről. Az ESRF magyar tagdíja évi 76 millió forint, amihez azonban pillanatnyilag nem lehet finanszírozót találni. Ez azt jelenti, hogy 15 igen sikeres év után Magyarország gyakorlatilag kilép az ESRF szervezetéből, ezzel elzárva a magyar kutatók elől ennek az egyedülálló nagyberendezésnek a használati lehetőségét.

A Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság petícióban kéri Magyarország Kormányát és a Magyar Tudományos Akadémiát, hogy találjanak módot hazánk ESRF-tagságának fenntartására. Annak érdekében, hogy a petíció külföldi együttműködő partnereinkhez is eljusson, angol nyelven íródott. A petíció a

https://www.change.org/p/government-of-hungary-hungarian-academy-of-sciences-stop-hungary-s-withdrawal-from-the-european-synchrotron-radiation-facility

címen érhető el. További részletek a petícióban olvashatók.

Kérjük mindazokat, akik Magyarország ESRF-tagságának fenntartását fontosnak tartják - akár Magyarországról, más ESRF-tagországból, vagy a világ más részéről -, hogy ezt petíciónk aláírásával erősítsék meg, és buzdítsák erre kollégáikat és együttműködő partnereiket is.

Egyedül a kutatóközösség nyomatékos kiállása akadályozhatja meg Magyarország kilépését az ESRF-ből.

Budapest, 2015. június 28.

Magyar Szinkrotronbizottság



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